EXCLUSIVE: Four Veterans Speak Out About Tim Walz's "Stolen Valor" and Truth About Retiring Before Iraq Deployment | Ep. 876
Digest
This episode of the Megan Kelly Show delves into the controversy surrounding Tim Walls, Kamala Harris' running mate, and accusations of "stolen valor" against him. Former members of Walls' National Guard unit, including Tom Barons, Paul Herr, Rodney Town, and Tom Schilling, come forward with allegations that Walls falsely inflated his military rank to "Command Sergeant Major" and abandoned his unit before their deployment to Iraq. They share their personal experiences and provide evidence to support their claims, including Walls' knowledge of the deployment before leaving the National Guard and his promises to deploy with his unit. Congressman Adam Smith, a Democrat from California, defends Walls, claiming the accusations are lies and that Walls left the National Guard to run for Congress before deployment orders came in. However, the veterans refute Smith's claims, providing further evidence that contradicts his narrative. The veterans discuss the moral implications of Walls' actions, arguing that his decision to abandon his unit was a betrayal of trust and a morale crusher for the soldiers who remained. They also raise concerns about Walls' frequent trips to China, suggesting they may be suspicious given his history of dishonesty and the current tensions between the US and China. The episode explores the possibility that Walls' actions were politically motivated, suggesting he may have avoided deployment to Iraq because it was a Bush-era war. The veterans highlight Walls' history of lying, including his false claims about his military rank and his service in Operation Enduring Freedom, arguing that his actions constitute "stolen valor." They analyze Walls' public statements about his military service, pointing out inconsistencies and attempts to spin his actions as a positive commitment to the National Guard. The veterans also criticize Walls' handling of the National Guard during the unrest in Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd, arguing that he was incompetent and unprepared to deploy the necessary resources. The episode concludes with the veterans expressing deep concern about Walls potentially becoming Vice President, given his history of dishonesty and his lack of commitment to his military obligations. They believe his actions demonstrate a lack of leadership and integrity.
Outlines
Accusations of Stolen Valor: Tim Walls' Military Service Controversy
This episode investigates accusations of "stolen valor" against Tim Walls, Kamala Harris' running mate, with veterans from his National Guard unit alleging he inflated his rank and abandoned them before deployment to Iraq.
Veterans Speak Out: Tim Walls' Alleged Abandonment of His Unit
Four veterans from Tim Walls' National Guard unit share their experiences and accusations against Walls, claiming he falsely inflated his rank and left the unit before their deployment to Iraq.
Adam Smith's Defense of Tim Walls
Congressman Adam Smith defends Tim Walls, claiming the accusations are lies and that Walls left the National Guard to run for Congress before deployment orders came in.
Veterans Respond to Adam Smith's Claims
The veterans refute Smith's claims, providing evidence that Walls knew about the deployment to Iraq before he left the National Guard and that he made promises to deploy with his unit.
The Moral Implications of Tim Walls' Actions
The veterans discuss the moral implications of Walls' actions, arguing that his decision to abandon his unit was a betrayal of trust and a morale crusher for the soldiers who remained.
Tim Walls' Alleged Political Motivations and Habitual Lying
The veterans discuss the possibility that Walls' actions were politically motivated, suggesting he may have avoided deployment to Iraq because it was a Bush-era war. They also highlight Walls' history of lying, including his false claims about his military rank and his service in Operation Enduring Freedom.
Tim Walls' Spin on His Military Service and Incompetence in Handling the National Guard
The veterans analyze Walls' public statements about his military service, pointing out inconsistencies and attempts to spin his actions as a positive commitment to the National Guard. They also criticize Walls' handling of the National Guard during the unrest in Minneapolis following the death of George Floyd, arguing that he was incompetent and unprepared to deploy the necessary resources.
Tim Walls' Suspicious Ties to China and Concerns About His Potential Vice Presidency
The veterans express concern about Walls' frequent trips to China, suggesting they may be suspicious given his history of dishonesty and the current tensions between the US and China. They also express deep concern about Walls potentially becoming Vice President, given his history of dishonesty and his lack of commitment to his military obligations.
Keywords
Stolen Valor
The act of falsely claiming military honors or service to gain benefits or recognition. It is considered a serious offense, particularly within the military community.
Operation Enduring Freedom
The US military operation in Afghanistan that began in 2001 following the 9/11 attacks. It involved a broad range of military and humanitarian efforts.
National Guard
A reserve military force that can be called upon by the state or federal government for various purposes, including disaster relief and civil unrest.
Command Sergeant Major
The highest enlisted rank in the US Army, responsible for the training, welfare, and discipline of soldiers within a unit.
Deployment
The process of sending military personnel to a specific location for a mission or operation. Deployments can range from short-term exercises to long-term combat operations.
Morale
The overall spirit and confidence of a group, particularly within a military unit. Low morale can negatively impact performance and effectiveness.
Habitual Liar
A person who frequently lies, often for personal gain or to avoid consequences. Habitual lying can erode trust and damage relationships.
Turncoat
A person who betrays their allegiance or principles, often switching sides in a conflict or political struggle.
Q&A
What are the main accusations against Tim Walls regarding his military service?
Former members of Walls' National Guard unit accuse him of falsely inflating his military rank to "Command Sergeant Major" and abandoning his unit before their deployment to Iraq.
How does Congressman Adam Smith defend Tim Walls?
Smith claims the accusations are lies and that Walls left the National Guard to run for Congress before deployment orders came in.
What evidence do the veterans provide to refute Smith's claims?
The veterans provide evidence that Walls knew about the deployment to Iraq before he left the National Guard and that he made promises to deploy with his unit.
What are the moral implications of Walls' actions, according to the veterans?
The veterans argue that Walls' decision to abandon his unit was a betrayal of trust and a morale crusher for the soldiers who remained. They believe his actions were morally indefensible.
What are the veterans' concerns about Walls' frequent trips to China?
The veterans express concern about Walls' frequent trips to China, suggesting they may be suspicious given his history of dishonesty and the current tensions between the US and China.
How do the veterans feel about Walls potentially becoming Vice President?
The veterans are deeply concerned about Walls potentially becoming Vice President, given his history of dishonesty and his lack of commitment to his military obligations. They believe his actions demonstrate a lack of leadership and integrity.
Show Notes
Megyn Kelly is joined by four veterans who served in the National Guard with Gov. Tim Walz and in his unit that deployed to Iraq, Tom Behrends, Paul Herr, Tom Schilling, and Rodney Tow, to talk about all the controversies surrounding the Democratic VP pick and his military service, why it matters when Walz retired just before his National Guard unit deployed to Iraq, why he had to know he was going to deploy before he retired, the relevance of his rank and his leadership role to how he abandoned his troops, what Walz told them at the time, his decision to run for Congress and whether that service counts, and why it matters Tim Walz has called himself a "retired command sergeant major" when he isn't one, the training that goes into retiring as a command sergeant major, the truth about Walz's public comments, the accusations that there's a political motive behind the veterans speaking out now, why Walz's motivations to portray himself as more decorated than he is are actually political, how Walz denigrated the National Guard with his "19-year-old cooks" comment, the truth about the National Guard and how incompetent Walz really is, how Walz' unit lost a 19-year-old in Iraq when Walz retired and left his men behind, what it means for Walz to potentially be one heartbeat away from the presidency, fear vs. bravery and Walz's wrong decision, why the veterans say Walz is a "coward" and "deserter," whether it's relevant that Donald Trump never served in the military, and more.
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